I was very much looking forward to a three hour 4/20 show with Thorne Peters on Facebook.
It was going to be about the use of “No Men’s Rae” when pleading a Marijuana case, and was featuring several guests along with Mary Thomas-Spears of Kentucky for Cannabis who was offering a different view on the use of this plea in a Court of Law, which apparently Mr. Peters did not wish to hear. However, he DID invite her to his show for her to give her point of view and I knew it would be a good debate … or at least I thought it would be…
There has been a much heated environment of late concerning “No Men’s Rae”, particularly on Facebook where both Thorne Peters and Mary Thomas Spears reside. Both are long time Activists. Mr. Peters is from Tennessee and Ms. Spears, is a long time Kentucky resident. Both have had a number of legal cases involving Cannabis/Marijuana and are no strangers to the Legal System.
I, as well, received an invitation from him. I am assuming because I wrote the article concerning “No Men’s Rae” about a week ago.
I invite you onto my 4/20 LIVE POTCAST to call in and talk about activism. I will be on from 4:20 pm ET til 4:20 pm PT 3 hours LIVE!
Psycho Mary will be calling in.
I replied later that day,
Need a call in #…. Isn’t Mary supposed to be on the show? At what time? Im listening!!!
Chat Conversation End
I knew as soon as I saw that message from him, and the way he referred to Ms. Spears, that it probably wasn’t going to be a fair debate, but thought maybe that was just his way of being “funny”.
Ms. Spears also speaks slowly and has a very deliberate voice, explaining details as she goes, and tries very hard to tell it in a way that everyone will understand. When someone deliberately tries to talk over the top of her in a conversation, as he did, she can get very annoyed, understandably. He purposefully spoke above her and never gave her a chance to fully explain herself, and as well actually made “fun” of her during the “conversation”, (if you could even call it a conversation). He had previously during the show used an automated voice of her commenting about “No Men’s Rae”, to which she had no chance to respond. (Please review video starting at @1:55).
Oh and I finally listened to his broadcast and he sounds like he studied one of my broadcast nearly repeats everything I said only in stead of screaming repeal he is screaming no Mens Rea (Rev. Mary)
It suffices to say that I believe that there is no place for this kind of badgering between Activists. There are a lot of us, we all have differing opinions on a lot of things. We should not be harassed when being spoken to especially in a public conversation.
When looking at the comments displayed under the video it seems there where a few with a differing opinion of No Men’s Rae and a few others which were not happy with the way Ms. Spears was treated while a “guest” on his show.
I was very disappointed and I feel it puts a cloud over the issue when a “Host” acts as Mr. Peters did on his show. Everybody center’s on the ongoing “entertainment” instead of the real issue – the Justice System in this Country. But then entertainment invites listeners and gets people talking and I’m thinking maybe that was what he was trying to do – use her for entertainment purposes? I hope that he thinks before being this disrespectful to anyone again!
We will be watching when “No Mens Rae” goes to Court in July!
And yes, I still wish him much luck in his endeavors!
As well, I have much respect for Rev. Mary Thomas-Spears and her opinion. I have seen years of Activism and teaching as well as actual Court Cases in the Justice System which she has endured. She has spent years learning from Activists such as Jack Herer, Gatewood Galbraith, Ron Kiczenski, Joseph Zoretic as well as educating Cannabis Activists, including myself, and I have never had her tell me anything that did not prove to be true.
I trust her judgement.
The following is a few excerpts from Facebook Messenger conversations:
Rev. Mary: His Attack Began on the Comments he left on post on my wall he then starts contacting people on my list I guess to attack me personally… Because then I get this from Jeri Rose…
Jeri Rose: just got this PM from that man (Thorne Peters), trying Mens R Here is what he wrote: She identifies herself as a psychic. If her victory had any merit, I would not be facing CANNABIS charges and no one else would be arrested…I will accomplish that on July 31, 2017. 750k getting arrested every year, only a brain dead sheeple would declare a legal victory. Getting your own ass off the hook with a begging plea for mercy does none of us any good. Follow the law. NO MENS REA.
Rev. Mary: At which point I think… Really????That’s what your going to do??? Make personal attacks to my character like a government agent or psych-ops?
Thorne Peters (to Rev. Mary):
I will be reading your take on NO MENS REA from your group post on my LIVE @ 4:20 pm CT POTCAST as a shining example of how even intelligent people can be led astray by flock mentality. Perhaps you should listen to the facts from a court of law. If your position on MENS REA is true, then how come Negroes didn’t follow the laws against them? …
You are singing to the choir here but your also wrong in your approach
@Thorne Peters Yes! I know! I already proved that in court = pot is Legal already!
Years ago as you can see by the above!
Problem is, it is still Prohibited by an Unconstitutional CSA!
And you are wrong about how your going about it!
Because of your being out of order…
Order is very important!
I say this to you as someone who has been there and who has been through more from experience in an attempt to help.
Please try to understand that you are contradicting yourself
And they will use it to their advantage because it is what they do
I invite you onto my 4/20 LIVE POTCAST to call in and explain your position. I will be on from 4:20 pm ET til 4:20 pm PT 3 hours LIVE! Call in and set me straight if you are up for it.
Today at 12:11am · Sent from Web
My 35 years as a strip club dj has trained me to win over all audiences . . . my charming wit is undeniable. My deviant style pales in comparison to the evil inflicted by the DA. I am following the law. EWE THE SHEEPLE and The Ministerz of Injustice seek to redefine the law by ignoring the fact there is NO MENS REA for POTHEADZ. You proved NOTHING, because people are still busted for POT After my case the jig is up.
10 hours ago · Sent from Web
ok good luck with your slide show in Court
10 hours ago
Mary Thomas-Spears: Still don’t have a number and I am being told by everyone around me not to lend my name to any more of your BS just so you know!
I received this message from Rev. Mary:
About my calling myself a psychic…
See these posts here https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=859464480858420&id=287554521382755
I don’t have to be psychic to know his games will not work in their Courts because that is their Game!
Just saying… When he hadn’t read the transcripts from Any Of My Cases or Others Whom I have Advocated on behalf of…. He is Clueless as to how I addressed any thing or What We Proved!!!
and it was all recorded as well by voice recorders and video…
So like I said, he is only helping him and tooting his own horn and really he is just tooting his own horn and helping himself to a jail cell in my humble opinion!
PLEASE REVIEW THE LINKS BELOW: